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These reporters and biased "sources" want to give the impression of truth and full disclosure, but don't seem to be having much luck with Greg around. This worked much better when they were the only game in town. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

Sounds like we are in the process of creating the Fifth Estate - the internet Blogger and his/her power of critique the powers that be.

Greg will consolidate all power unto himself. A sign of the apocolypse is upon us.......
Great job Greg!

Maybe you can contact her at home and ask:

PITZL MARY JO

Oops, Greg Here in my role as a grown up. I'd rather not publish Mary Jo's home address even if it's readily available on the internet. I will include her email address as soon as I can find it.

PHOENIX 85007

The hypocrisy on full display here is getting a little old.

First you condemn a woman who does some internet research and digs up some old parking tickets on Jonathan Paton. Actually I agreed that she went over the line.

But then you DEFEND Harper for doing the same thing, but attack Pitzel for doing a story about it, and noting that Harper had to declare bankruptcy on the pizza business he owned with his family.

Oh, and by the way you conflate people who work at a second job while serving in the legislature with a guy who votes to enrich a business that pays him $90,000 a year as if they're one and the same thing. They're not.

You once noted, Greg, that you're hardly an unbiased source. You said something to the effect that you wear your biases on your sleeve.

I respect that, and actually I have a different view of the obligations of a journalist - and I'm speaking as a former journalist who won some national awards and was told by various elected officials that I had a reputation for treating people fairly.

Show me where the First Amendment says you have to be objective.There is no such Constitutional obligation.

I could go on, because I also taught journalism as an adjunct instructor, and I talked about this in great detail.

The obligation is to FAIRNESS. Reporters make hundreds - literally hundreds - of choices every time they write a story. Those choices inevitably are colored by their background, and yes by their biases.

That's why I have no problem considering journalists to be bloggers. I read this blog to get a Republican perspective, and I'm never disappointed.

I'll confess I long ago lost patience with the right-wing persecution complex about the "left-wing" media. Howie Fischer ain't perfect, and he's often a pain in the rear, especially to some people I like and respect.

But I respect Howie. I do think he's trapped in conventional wisdom a bit too much, but I respect him nonetheless.

I also respect Daniel Scarpinato of the Star. Anyone who thinks he's a liberal out of the old "Red Star" school of jounalism isn't paying attention.


Pitzel's story is appropriate.

Greg Here: Sam, give me a break. Cheri Holgerson is a state employee who works with CPS and looked up the records and sent them to Paton in a clear attempt to intimidate him because he was investigating an agency she works with.

Harper wrote an email to six friends in which he pointed out the irony that the guy who wrote a nasty email against bankruptcy protections, had a financial issue of his own. Harper didn't contact the guy or harass him in any way. There was no "retaliation" or tactics. And his personal bankruptcy from 4 years ago has nothing to do with the story.

The lobbyist saw an opportunity to nail Harper so he sent Harper's email to the Pitzl and Pitzl used the email as a hook to discuss the bankruptcy. Her email to Mr. Clyde "I'd love to talk to you..." shows her obvious glee at the opportunity to nail Harper.

Greg

No one is commenting on the best part of this story, which is exposing the lobbyist who gave the email to Pitzl. I think the headline should be Lobbyist Busted. Everyone likes to blame Demenna for these types of things but rarely is there proof that ties him to it. There are a few lobbyists that give all of them a bad name and actions like this (at least that get exposed) helps the layman learn a little inside baseball.

Greg, you wrote, :"Harper wrote an email to six friends in which he pointed out the irony that the guy who wrote a nasty email against bankruptcy protections, had a financial issue of his own. Harper didn't contact the guy or harass him in any way. There was no "retaliation" or tactics."

I beg to differ. Mr. Harper clearly wanted to render impotent any comment that Mr. Clyde had about financial issues by pointing out the the gentleman had his own financial problams. He was saying in effect, "My consituent is disqualified from making any comments about financial issues because he has had financial problems."

Now we can all ask, is Mr. Harper disqualified on commenting on financial issues brought to him at the legislature, esp. if they have to do with bankruptcy issues as he filed bankrupcy 4 years ago.

If Mr. Harper thinks Mr. Clyde is disqualified from commenting on fianancial issues (which Mr. Clyde says are all taken care of); then I think we should ask Mr. Harper to recuse himself from the same.

By the way, I have not read her or in Ms. Pritzel's article that Mr. Clyde sought bankruptcy court protection for his financial woes. Perhaps someone can clarify that point.

Great job again, Greg. I think you are right on concerning the differences between the Cheri Holgerson story and this Pitzl character's story. Reporters always think they can do whatever they want and print whatever fits their agenda ("Read the paper"--arrogant too). You seem to be one of the few in Arizona willing to take on the Republic and its silliness.

And SonoraSam--put down the Kool-Aid--these stories simply reveal what is already there--the so-called persecution complex is just the left's phrase for the right's getting wise to the fact that the media is a bunch of left-wing nutjobs with so-called "credentials." There may be no constitutional requirement but it is a credibility requirement to be objective--and the Republic and its ilk claim to be objective all the time when they are far, far from it. A few brave folks like Greg point that out. I will bet dollars to donuts that Pitzl would claim "objectivity" about this story if she was asked, and she'd be lying.

I almost heard Mary Jo's saliva hit the keyboard as I read "I would love to talk to you" in her email.

My concern is one I have had for a long time: that politics is becoming more about personal destruction than debating ideas. I have plenty of reservations about a number of comments Harper has made and certainly would be happy to challenge many of his votes the last four years. But he's still a human being, and when I see him I try to treat him with respect. There needs to be some golden rule in politics and in the media where we apply some semblance of fairness. Harper had financial problems, most of us have at some point in our lives. I'm with Harper on this one. My friend on the other side of the aisle voted for this bill as well. It struck a balance between allowing HOAs to collect fees and also respecting personal property rights and allowing owners an added protection.

Jack Harper has been a friend of conservatives for years. It's too bad he had a business problem, part of which was caused by the francisor. Such business failures are not unusual, and most of you know it.

The senator was not wrong to mock the inconsistent message of the HOA supporter. And, the Republic has attacked him at every opportunity. Why would they miss this one, even if they had to stretch to make it fit.

I congratulate this Blog for keeping after that paper and its bias. They have attacked conservative Republicans for years and liberal Republicans like Jeffy just relish those attacks against conservatives.

Which brings us to Kevin Demenna. Why do so many in the State Senate listen to this guy? He turns on them if its to his advantage, as in this case since he makes lots of money from HOAs. He thinks he's the 31st senator and everyone who fights him is fair game.

maryjo.pitzl@arizonarepublic.com
602) 444-8963

Greg, I think you are right on with the analysis of this situation other than the "outing" of Harper's bankruptcy. Is it better for a guy who is going around campaigning for Maricopa County Treasurer to have the bankruptcy known before or after he files? And, as one of the self-appointed fiscal hawks in the Senate, I think it's good to have some perspective on where he is coming from. Maybe he understands better than most that these budgets are unsustainable. Like most things, he can use the truth to his advantage, it will enhance his credibility, and frankly after watching him "perform" on occaision, he could use it.

Greg. Great job, buddy! As most of us who no longer wear rose colored glasses know, the print media, especially the Republic, will always break "left-liberal". Pitzl is no exception, except that she lets her emotions and beliefs get in her way, which violates the first rule of journalism. Since we can't send her back to school, as much as I hate to say it, perhaps she should take the Howard Fisher class in how to be a left leaner without being a total ass about it. As for Clyde...show of hands for those of you that live in an HOA? Majority. Good. Then you know how hard it is to collect from some homeowners. I regularly research "Jan's World" on behalf of my HOA to try and determine why someone won't pay their dues. Mostly, Bankruptcies and Tax Liens. So, Clyde, buddy, if it's public, it's fair game. It seems to me that Clyde is just trying to get out of paying his dues, an obligation he knew about when he moved in.

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