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Special Agent Joe Utah, on leave from Zonitics, tried to start a blog on the Republic and pointing out your issues. What help did he get from AZ blogging folks?

None.

I'd have helped but I am in Flag and never bother with the Republic anymore. Good our covering it but it would have been better working with SAJU. No offense.

er our= your

that's "Johnny" Utah, not "Joe."

On the comment of newspaper salesman, While growing up in less than fully developed area in California we had a nice old man that only lived on the next street or two over that delivered, sold and collected the subscription dues. We never had a pushy sale calls and we never had a stranger knock on the door selling the paper. That way of selling the newspaper has all but come extinict .

Well, actually I am MORE concerned about the downgrading of the safey of the Palo Verde Nuclear plant than I am about a kid knocking on my door to sell a paper.

It is amazing how some people apparently like to distract themselves about real concerns about safety in the community to worrying about kids knocking on doors (under the supervision of an adult) trying to sell me more birdcage liner.

Don't you think it's frightening that the Palo Verde plant has never in its history been given a clean bill of health when it comes to safety from the day it opened? Now that should anger all of us who live downwind from it!

Ron: It's amazing how some people like to ignore what is written. Nowhere does Greg say (or imply) that this is an either/or -- that you should care about Palo Verde or the kids, but not both. In fact he says in regard to Palo Verde "... newspapers believe it is their job to expose developments in industries that are of interest to Arizonans. Fair enough."

If you read the NYTimes article he linked (I had read it before), you'll see that it details serious abuse of the kids selling magazines by their "handlers".

When I read it, before reading Greg's post, I had a similar reaction to his -- it reminded me of the complaints, widespread in the media, about labor abuses in apparel plants, in which the media argued that Wal-Mart (for example) was responsible for the actions of their subcontractors. If that's the case, shouldn't the media be held responsible for exploitation/abuse of their sub-contractors?

In fairness, the NYT article briefly hints at this, then quotes magazine executives to the contrary and backs off.

BobH,

Fair enough.

I am still angered that APS/Palo Verde had a 'bad chemical mix' since 1994 which corroded the system and compromised the heat transfer system. (By my math, that's 12 years of known negligence.)

While we are talking about 'exploitation/abuse' of children we should address the huge sex trade of children as young as 4 years old into our state.

Might be time for another William Wilberforce to arise in our world.

ron

Thanks Timothy, end of day tiredness is my only excuse, you are of course correct.

I worked in circulation for the Republic in Prescott about twenty years ago.
Kids who delivered newspapers were self employed contractors just as adult auto carriers were. The kids were paid by the paper delivered so the more subscribers on their routes the more money they made for traveling the same distance each day. The kid who came to your door travels past your door every day anyway, probably while you are sleeping. He is a hard working guy in business for himself. He needs to earn his own money for some reason. Some families simply can't afford to provide everything their kids want or even need.
The shifty guy with him probably didn't want to be there. I had to do it once and I really hated it. Ughh-door to door sales!
I did it because it was part of my job and I did it for the kids. The sponsor is there so children are not knocking on doors alone.
Delivering newspapers is a time honored way for kids to make money and learn responsibility in America. The real problem is that it really isn't safe for kids to be alone on the streets any more.

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